Kristi Fury on Living Health: Why GLP-1s Are About More Than Weight Loss

These spike proteins are absolutely raising havoc on the reproductive systems, the brain. I mean, there's not a system that isn't affected by these spike proteins. One of the most powerful tools we have to reduce that spike protein, that inflammation is a low-dose GLP-1.

One of the things I love that you said was that there isn't a visit that you have with a patient where you're not talking about exercise and diet. You can't live health without exercise. You can't live health without food. It's about creating life change. Take it that next step forward. It's really about a life of health, you know, to live health, you know, which I know that sounds kind of simple, but yet it really isn't simple, but yet we can make it simple. You know, we can have all the money in the bank, but if we don't have our health, we don't have anything.

Kristi Fury. Yes. Family nurse practitioner from New Mexico. Seen patients all over the state and probably beyond. I I'm not sure. Do you do you do that as well?

Yes, we do. Okay, that's fantastic. And the name of your charity is 413 Journey. Yes. Yeah. Tell me about that.

Yeah. So, the founder, Chris Youngblood, it's kind of a cool story. He was he's now a structural engineer, but he grew up homeless. And so he then he went to I believe it was the military. I forget which branch it was either military or army and has just had huge success. And then he started this organization probably 5 years ago or so. And just 'cuz he had really some very influential mentors for him when he was homeless. And you know he's told the story of you know basically someone kind of got him off the streets and said why you know you don't need to be on the streets here. You need to go join the army. And so yeah that's kind of what started his path.

And then it's a branch off of Lifequest which is for the juvenile detention, you know, at-risk teens. And that is the whole basis of 4:13, obviously faith-based, Philippians 4:13, but it's really you know understand that all of our teenagers are at risk, you know, they really especially with our society. And you know I've had a few um you you apply for it and there is absolutely an application for it and then they do weekly meetings and it's always based off of some leadership like integrity or you know and so they have definitely a structure and then at the end once you finish the program I think the average program takes about 12 to 16 weeks I'm not for um they go hike the Grand Canyon from rim to rim. So yeah and so like I help with that as far as the physicals, making sure the kids are fit enough to do it, and then you know just I think it's amazing. I I mean, you have kids of all different social economical status that that do this. I mean, you don't it's not just, you know, for the the typical kids that you would think that would be getting there. I mean, some kids, they go to private school. I mean, you know, again, I think the premises that I've learned through volunteering through his organization is that there isn't really a teenager that isn't at risk no matter what what their status is as far as social economic. It's a tough time in life and now more than ever with all the social media and you know this sort of I've got to look a certain way.

So you have a a place where you practice. Tell us about that.

Yeah. So, I opened up Beyond Health, my original clinic, in 2014. I came from the hospitalist world. I mean, I was, worked my ass off, but learned so much as a hospitalist. I've worked in the ER as a nurse practitioner, but it was actually I have to give credit to my ex-husband who we get along. But, he is an ER physician and he was doing more and more medical direction contracts. And so, we just we were getting killed from taxes and I was like, we better open up a clinic, dude. Like, this just isn't working. And, you know, so, like I said, I I really have to give him a lot of the credit for 'cuz I don't think I would have ever have stepped out on my own.

And so we opened up just a traditional kind of primary care. We went after we already had one of our medical directions we had were the Albuquerque Police Department. We had a couple of other area police department contracts. And so we already had a good basis of first responders. And so those were our original patients and to this day still are my original patients.

And so, you know, 2017, it became, you know, we were renting a little 12,200 square foot space. I think we had three exam rooms. And it just became very clear to me either we were going to have to get bigger or we were going to have to close the doors just to make insurance work. And then so I went on this mad research endeavor of, you know, direct primary care at the time it was called is. So I joined there's a coalition up in Montana and you know I just got really involved making sure and then so I kind of proposed it to my ex. I'm like look this is what we need to do. Give me 6 months. I promise you I'll make it work.

Like but and it was also, you know, looking back there was a lot of growing pains and a lot of like, you know, I'll never forget 'cuz I just sent out letters to our current patients just saying and and at the time, especially in Albuquerque, New Mexico, this was a new concept like people are like, "What? You're going to make us pay money to come see you?" And but you know, I think you know, I always say with insurance, you know, not only does it tell the patient what they're worth, it tells the provider what we're worth. And you know, and that's kind of how I proposed it to the patients, like like you have a choice. And then I was already starting to dabble into the hormones.

I don't think I was doing peptides yet, but I mean, and I and to be honest, like I never really fit as a hospitalist. It would always drive me crazy that I would discharge a patient sicker than they were when they came to me because I knew what I was doing to their gut. And again, I'm not anti-western medicine. It is it is needed at the appropriate time. But then going back to true health, that's where I was fighting it because I I knew I was making people sicker.

And then I was going through my own personal things. I was, you know, a runner in college, ran marathons every month. I mean, just, you know, just very hard on my body. And it was actually a surgeon at Steman in Bale, Colorado, that I just I didn't go, you know, I just had my hip surgery, I think I was like 31 or so at the time, and I didn't want to go down the prescription route of like anti-inflammatories. And he literally, Dr. Philipon, he's like, Christie, he's like, "Read this article on testosterone." Something about an anti-inflammatory. So, I was like, "Okay." So, I read it and I was like, "Well, this makes sense to me." And so, found a compounding pharmacist in Albuquerque that made me some creams. And I mean, really, that's what started peaking my interest when I was still very much in that western medicine model as a hospitalist. And then opening up at the clinic and then you know looking at having to transition it out of a you know the typical insurance-based practice.

Moving forward to 2018. Um, you know, it was a huge I I look back, I'm so glad I didn't know what I know now, 'cuz I would have probably never have done it 'cuz once you opt out of insurance, especially Medicaid, Medicare as a provider with our our MPI numbers, you can't reapply for insurance for 5 years. So, I was going to have to be willing to go back to just being a staff nurse, which and I was and that's what I told my ex-husband. I was like, "Look, worst case scenario, it fails, I go be a nurse. My pride can handle that. I can do it." But like I said, it was profitable within 4 months.

And you know, it's to this day, like I said, I I have I have different memberships in my practice now. And I truly have a legacy membership. And it's it's the ones that signed up with me from the beginning. And you know, I mean, their prices are locked in. Most most of the time they don't even pay for stuff, which is fine, you know, again, like I 'cuz they believed in me before I believed in myself. And I'll never forget that.

And then as it's grown, as I got, you know, more comfortable in the hormones, supplements, and then have really built, I've had some tremendous mentors in the cellular longevity space as far as building my knowledge. Like I was at a conference this yesterday for a few days. And you know, it just it blows my mind my my connections I've been able to make that I just never thought I never think of myself in that league, but yet I have them as partners and associations and, you know, contacts. Yeah. I mean, it's an amazing it's an amazing time.

It feels like it's been building up to this point and now it's really starting to kind of slingshot forward into the next dimension. And there's just so much advancement and understanding and there lots of people doing lots of different things. Lots of places to go to get information. That's for sure.

Well, and I think, you know, to me that's what, you know, when you you get down to what Beyond Health is, that's the name of my clinic. It's about creating life change, but take it take it that next step forward. It's really about a life of health, you know, to live health, you know, which I know that sounds kind of simple, but yet it really isn't simple, but yet we can make it simple. But like that is when I have a patient that comes to me or a patient that's been with me for many years. How do I help this patient live health? 'Cuz I mean, you know, we can have all the money in the bank, but if we don't have our health, we don't have anything.

Amen. And you know, I think creating life change. I mean, we have some and you know, and it doesn't I think people want to make it all complicated, but I mean, like you were saying, I mean, exercise is by far your biggest longevity tool. Are there are some amazing cool things you can do with peptides, hormones, ozone, hyper? I mean, absolutely. Like, you name it, you can do it. But if you're not doing those basics of exercise, you know, using food as medicine, and sleep, you're kind of wasting your money, man. And I mean I have a very simple approach and like there I don't have one appointment that we don't talk about how's your food, how's your exercise and then you know I've been blessed to really get some phenomenal health coaches on my side or you know trainers that are really coaches not just you know you think of your a trainer but like truly coaches.

And then some nutritionists that you know I can you know one good thing with you know co is industries businesses like exploded 'cuz I think it you know the average American kind of understood and again nothing I you know I'm not anti it's not that I'm anti-western medicine do do I prescribe antibiotics every you know absolutely do I prescribe you know blood pressure medicines when needed absolutely my ex-husband he's had leukemia three times he wouldn't be alive today if he didn't have, you know, modern medicine, you know, the 'cuz he truly needed chemo at certain parts of his phases. But yet, we're always working on that aspect of creating life change for a patient and helping him live health.

I always tell people I can't stop aging, but I can help you age to a younger self. You know, again, it's it's fun. I mean, I'm not going to lie. I mean, it's fun to do those tests. Like I think especially for you know high performers type A yeah it's it's kind of a challenge for ourselves but I mean at the end of the day I mean what do you want to do? You just want to live health and I don't want to live until I'm 100 if I don't have health. Yeah. I mean, if you think about it, like the worst time of your life are those last years if you're not in, you know, like my dream is like, hey, I want to I want to be doing something and just yeah, drop over.

100% agree with you on that. And I think for the longest time, you know, we got this sort of health care or health insurance provided by our pay by our our employer connected to a payer. Back then, they didn't own all the PBMs, but you know, you're kind of triangulated. You're not looking at health the same way. It's like, I got to go to I have to go to the doctor. We were doing things. We're working out. We're doing all these types of things, but I think there's a wholesale shift in the way that people are looking at health, which is why you've been so successful doing what you do.

Yeah. Well, it's about health maintenance, not disease maintenance. I mean, truly, when you get down to it, it's that it's that simple, but yet it it can I'm not going to, you know, do I have a few people in my brain right now of patients that when I get back home that I just like, okay, why what am I missing the boat on this patient? 'Cuz but it it it always goes back. It's it's about health maintenance where I think I was getting pulled into that disease maintenance because sadly some of these patients are in disease right now which is okay like you know and it's and it's finding that you know I look at every patient I look at kind of a health paradigm in a sense of how close are you to wellness not how close you are to sickness and you know every time when I see you know see a patient on a repeat visit it's like okay am I moving that dial and if I'm not what am I not conveying to this patient or or what resources have I not given this patient to understand like that's what we're trying to move towards.

You know I think one of the most powerful things our electronic health record system we take pictures of every patient when they come new patients and I intentionally keep their first picture up because if I haven't changed that picture in 6 months I'm doing something wrong. Like that's that's my game towards myself.

Out of curiosity, do you keep a record of all of the pictures?

And I don't ever change it because I it's also impactful for the patient 'cuz then when they were like, I never want to look like this person ever again. I'm like, you don't have to. They have their initial picture taken and then you know it's on their demographics and then we we have a TV monitor in every room that has like it I can pull up their EHR and you know help look at labs but front and center is their picture and you know to me like I mean there's you know again there's always a couple of patients that come to mind they're like I never want to look like that person again and they're like that's me I was like yeah that was you and and like I said my gauge myself is if I haven't changed that picture in 6 months, then I'm not reaching that patient for whatever. And and you know, and the other part is maybe they're not ready for me yet either. And with growth, I've understood that.

That's the interesting thing. I mean, you just nailed something that's so important, right? I I'm not a doctor or a provider of any sort, so I can't, you know, completely relate. I can only imagine sort of the feeling of, hey, I'm in this 100% trying to help you, but you're not willing to help yourself. I find that in my clients a lot. I'm working with clients and I'm like, hey, you know, I'm doing everything and don't you see it? And you could say it to them over and over. I had a call with somebody this morning and like this is your problem. Do you see it's right here, man? Like this is it. Yeah. Like and it's whatever they can do to not if I don't know what it is. I just don't want to look at that one problem. Yeah. It is. It is tough.

So, it must be hard sometimes when you're dealing with people and you're saying, "Hey, you know, if you would only just do the following, you would get such a better result." They've got to be in it with you.

Oh, 100%. No, 100%. It doesn't bother me as much as it used to 'cuz, you know, I used to kind of beat myself up over it, but I if they're not in it, they're not in. And that's okay 'cuz something will finally click with that patient. Sadly. Maybe it's an event in their life that, you know, okay, I'm sick and I acknowledge that I'm sick or maybe it's just them being, you know, sick and tired of being sick and tired, right? But there's always if if I can just keep that patient somewhat connected to our clinic, they there'll be a pain point that they finally like, okay, I get it.

And then also, you know, I'm very transparent with my patients of I walk the walk too. I mean, you know, I talk it in the sense of my goal for every patient of mine is that they see health in myself. That, you know, I'm not just here trying to make money. You know, granted, I've had a I have a fabulous life because of the work and the the patience we have and and what I've created, but it's never been about the financial gains. And I think that's it's never been of of me. I always knew it was something bigger. And every day it is that.

And it's those patients walking in that door every day, which is a perfect opportunity for us to go back to how we normally start the show, which is your origin story.

Yeah. So, it kind of I think we get a sense of who somebody is in their, you know, in their early years. It informs why we wound up where we are today. And so if you could share like what was it like? Take us back. Like childhood.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, I mean I grew up I mean I came from a very simple background. I grew up on a farm and ranch. I was driving a tractor before I could drive a car. And then you know back then I mean like my my parents have been extremely blessed of what they've been given. But I mean like my parents didn't go to a lot of our sports stuff just 'cuz they were working or you know dad was in the fields or whatever it might be. But I think it was that, you know, that work ethic.

And then I was a little bit of an honorary kid, not gonna lie. And you know, someone told me I couldn't do it, I'd be like, "Screw you. I'll do it." But sometimes, you know, looking back to my demise, like, you know, maybe went a little bit over the board as far as how far I pushed myself. And 'cuz I was always an athlete, you know, I just like I remember my dad one day, he was dropping me off to go to a track meet. like, "You're not going to run in college." I'm like, "Yeah, I am, Dad." Like, "Screw you. Yes, I am." And you know, and so everybody always asks like, you know, what was I mean, to be honest, I mean, I just ran angry and I I could turn that that that into energy and to run.

And then, you know, just like had a fabulous time in college. Never ran professionally. I mean, I understood my my role was the grades, you know, like that was back in the NCA where, you know, you had to keep that average grade point and and that was that was and I understood that like they needed me. One of my best friends her daughter is now at the Olympic training center. I mean, she's, you know, I don't think Cheryl ever ran Olympic, but I mean, she ran professionally even, but I also like she was just as important to the team as I was. I was just from a grade perspective. And so, you know, there was that.

I was worked as a nurse for I don't know, a couple years. In between I'm sorry to interrupt. Um from college, what made you decide to go into nursing school? What was the what was the

Yeah. So, it was actually my mother. So, I was premed, but I long-distance runners. We all have eating disorders like that. Especially back then, like you had a practice weight you had to have and then you had a run weight, you know, in an event weight. And I mean I graduated a class of 18 people and then I went to Texas Tech like you know like I like it was like totally you know again talking about a fish out of water like I was like I'll never forget walking in and I heard all these girls vomiting and I was just like what the hell's going on dude and Cheryl who's still my best friend she's actually now a nurse in Houston. She's like, "Well, Christie, we all we're fixing to get weighed." I'm like, "What?" You know, again, just like coming from like, "We're going to wait." Okay. And you know, and she's like, "Well, like what do you weigh right now?" I'm like, "Uh, I don't know. I didn't know it was important." She's like, and like I look back like we were two. I mean, she came from the from Houston. I mean, and so, you know, she grew up, you know, in that that dynamic there. And she's like, "Follow me." I'm like, "Okay."

And you know, it just so going back it just it became it became too much for me. From a mental perspective and then 'cuz like again I was trying to keep the four-point and but yet I still had the same practice schedule. And then my mom, she's like, "Christie, you need to just go to nursing school." I was like, "Mom, I'm not going to become a damn nurse. Like no, I'm not going to do that." And she and literally she said, "Christie, you're not going to make it through if you continue this path." She's like, "Go to nursing school." I was like, "Fine, mom." So, I went applied for nursing school. Of course, I got in. And that's really when I quit running competitive 'cuz then you're thrown into the health science center and you know, it was just it just there was definitely a fork in my road.

But I that's when I started having a phenomenal time with the club sports. Like I mean I would travel all over for triathlons and you know I mean I I didn't miss that competitive 'cuz I still had it. Like I it's not like one day I was running the next day I wasn't. And you know so anyways I did that and then I always knew I was going to be some type of provider. I just didn't know what. And then so I stayed a nurse for I don't know three or four years before I went to nurse practitioner school in Albuquerque and then been there ever since. I mean worked other areas as a hot like we worked up in Farmington which is northern New Mexico. Learned so much there. And then came back to Albuquerque in the Albuquerque area since then.

I think one of the the things that even I myself didn't understand the impact of a good health coach but I've implemented I I have two that I work with but those have been game changers for patients 'cuz you know like I have these these two attorneys that are in my mind and I mean obviously very successful but they just they had no concept just those how important that those daily habits are right of just Like even if it's in between a court case, you know, that's the issue with so many attorneys is like they live by far one of the most sedentary lifestyles 'cuz they just sit there and they're down reading all day long. And you know, even if it's just, you know, going for a walk around their building or doing this, I mean, most attorney's offices are, you know, in a building with several flights of stairs.

But I can tell you like a health coach when I really started implementing that and she just you know figures out how best way to communicate with them text message phone call whatever it might be email but like she just is that daily point of of contact of okay you know did you hit your protein yesterday or you know how much did you walk yesterday how was your sleep that's been huge and so I mean not to say we don't don't get success with the patient. And I'm not saying that from an arrogant perspective, but it's because I figure out, okay, where's their pain point? Like, you know, is it a financial burden, which most of ours that's not, but it's it's usually a time or their life is so freaking chaotic. I mean, hell, I couldn't be healthy either, you know? I mean, it's just like it it always blows my mind how people kind of live life. I'm like, "And you wondering why you don't have health? Do you not?" You know, like to me it's so obvious.

And and so I guess it's just where we have gotten good at Beyond Health is you walk in and you see health. I mean, like, and I'm not saying that all my employees are fit and fabulous, but they're all healthy or they're actually living it, you know? Like my my MAS, I mean, yes, they're they're still a little overweight, but you like they have health in their skin. Like you can tell that they're starting to do the steps, too. And and patients recognize that. And then, you know, it's just that sense of of excellence and and my staff, they want to create life change, not only for themselves, but for the patients themselves. And so I mean we we truly are all invested as a team with one very common mission and vision.

I always say like if if I myself had to pick one peptide to be stranded on a desert island, it'd be BPC 157. But where I'm hoping as a society and and I know like again like my core group, the people I just mentioned these GLP-1s I they're they're a phenomenal medication and but it's just I absolutely hate as a society like when I hear a news person and again it's just it's just because they don't know and so I also have to give them that sense of grace. But like people that have a voice that people listen to and they talk about just the freaking weight loss. I don't even use it for weight loss. And again, I'm not saying weight loss is not needed. It is needed in certain people, but it's usually not the weight that's needed. It's the composition. And going back to my thing of inflammation that is what's needed.

So I think if if I could you know what that one peptide I wish as more of a collective group we could say look stop media stop big pharma I mean just like they intentionally not allowing lower doses to be covered which you know when I look back like the few patients yes we're a cash-based clinic but I do have if I have a patient that comes in and I know Zepbound can get covered because it's obvious their BMI like here, let me give you a prescription, you know, but I can never get those lower doses 'cuz I mean I have hundreds of people on GLP-1s. I have very few people in high doses 'cuz it's not needed. But yet big pharma, they push the bigger doses because that's your higher from your prescription monitor managers. You said it earlier, PM PBM. You know, they get a higher reimbursement from those bigger doses. So, they're the ones that are causing the negative side effects 'cuz I mean, and it happens. Thankfully, it hasn't happened to a patient of ours, but you know, people will get bowel obstructions. People will get, you know, their gut will get paralyzed. I mean, there there is I mean, it does need to be, but it's only at high doses. And and that's the the the power of these lower doses.

And like why I'm so strict of like if you're on a GLP-1 with us, you are getting an InBody every time you come in for a refill. You're getting an assessment by the nurse to make sure you're eating enough protein, that you're not losing more muscle than you are fat. We're looking at labs to make sure that we're truly changing that insulin resistance picture, right? Because I mean you know people think insulin resistance is just a fat person. It's not. It's it's a skinny person.

But you know I think my I know this is I'm going to circling back around but like the neurovascular disease what it what these GLP-1s does from a cancer cascade. What it does just I mean from a muscle perspective like everybody thinks GLP-1s cause muscle loss. No, it's a lack of protein and it's too high of doses. I mean, of course, anytime you lose weight, you're going to lose a little bit of muscle mass initially, but it's it's catching it. I mean, that's inevitable. I don't care if it's a keto diet, you know, whatever freaking diet you're on, the carnival, whatever. You're going to lose muscle mass initially, but it's then it's making sure that muscle loss is not occurring.

But and I can tell you like again like my true cellular longevity, we are trying to change that narrative of like look guys, you know, let's not screw up a good thing of how impactful these medications I mean heck, it's getting approved for Alzheimer's and dementia. And you know and like I was with new bio age at a the it was a long hauler co conference that we had some speakers this one scientist from Italy like if we understood if if just the general public you everybody for the most part people think co's over it's not over and it's never going to be over like and especially the downstream effects and it and going back these spike proteins are absolutely absolutely raising havoc on the reproductive symptom or systems, the brain. I mean, there's not a system that isn't affected by these spike proteins. One of the most powerful tools we have to reduce that spike protein, that inflammation is a low-dose GLP-1. And that's what I wished we were talking about. You know, get over the weight loss craze of it.

So, let's talk about InBody. And you're getting a DEXA now. Yeah. Okay. So, InBody, fairly effective. It's, you know, it gives you all the stuff you need. DEXA kind of takes it to the next level. There's been some debate about BodPod versus DEXA. I think the DEC I don't know. I've always been a Dexa guy.

I'm a Dexa. I mean, so this is my thing and it's the honest truth. I don't do anything that I haven't done myself. Like there is not a peptide, there's not a supplement. I will tell people this is the reaction I had or you know, whatever it might be. I will do I'm not going to lie, I'll do high doses just so that I can see like do I really get a side effect or not and how much I can push it. And then my husband's also my guinea pig.

No, the the thing is with the InBody, is he your second husband?

My second husband. Remind me not to be your third. Okay. Yeah. No, you're not my third. No, I I'm done. I never thought I was going to get married the second time. No, the thing with the InBody and and like I said, I've done the experiment myself. I have done it where I have done it right when I walk into the clinic, just right after working out. I've done it walking in first thing without working out. I've done it in the afternoon after working a long day when I know I'm dehydrated, you know, and it's just because of how that InBody the electrodes with that water transport. Like I mean, I've changed my InBody that way and I've made it look really really damn good and I've made it look like Christy, you know what I'm saying? Just like from that curve as far as that muscle to to fat ratio, but it's from the average person looking at I was like, "Oh, that's kind of But if you what's important to really look at is your intercellular extra extracellular water like that really tells you where you're at. The thing with the DEXA is you don't have that manipulation.

But like I said right now like I have the InBody 970 so it's the best InBody has as a new patient. You've been an InBody. You get labs done before you even meet me. But I'm really excited about the DEXA. I actually went to so when I was at the new bio age conference a few weeks ago in West Palm I actually went to Lynard and Frocks their longevity clinic and did all their longevity assessment tools and like I did the Penoi the metabolic breath analysis there's a form of those force plates I forget the name but any but like my biggest like as like that's the DEXA I'm going to get 'cuz I mean what I I think one of the biggest things that I that I loved about the DEXA. We all know if we can keep less kind of that target marker of visceral visceral fat we're trying to stay under is less than a pound of visceral fat like that. Like if a person has that they're okay. Now it's those people that get which 3, four, 5 lbs doesn't sound much but around yours that is a lot. Yeah. And that's what I love about the DEXA is it gives like I know exactly where I have like if you were my I would know exactly where I had you at. Versus the InBody. Yes, it gives you that visual but it doesn't give you and there and there's ways like you can get a raw a pretty average assessment of how much pounds a person has but it's not an exact and again like you can manipulate that with their hydration.

And that's like like we're so strict with our people doing the InBodies is we really encourage them always come in to the best of your ability the same time every time you do an InBody and make sure either you worked out or you didn't work you know do it consistently so that I am actually measuring accuracy as far as it's not a different picture and then I'll I'll tell people like I mean I'll show them my results like look I manipulated my body by just doing it this many different ways. I do the same thing with the DEXA. Yeah. DEXA is not as much because it doesn't it does measure the water weight but it's not you know how I understand it how it is it's not moving that that currency of that water as much like the InBody is because of those electrodes you're standing on and holding.

Well, it's the same thing on the peptide side of things, right? I mean, if you couldn't get a peptide you didn't know it was GMP and third party tested, you wouldn't you wouldn't give it to your patient. But yet, how many patients and you know, and that's another thing that I have I bought peptides myself online? Absolutely. Like if I couldn't get a hold of something but like I'll have there's a lab in Albuquerque that I'll have them test it and that the thing that that I tell patients well they say it's 99% pure it probably is but they're not checking for contaminants that is where all these nanoplastics like that that is what's causing your issue right there.

But anyways, it always blows my mind I'll sometimes order something online for myself and I'll go get it tested. Sometimes it's completely clean and it's good. Sometimes it is just full of crap. And so and I obviously don't I can't sell that to patients and nor would I ever. But you know I think that's another thing that gets frustrating for clinics like ourselves is you know we are sourcing this from FDA approved compoundingies like you know going back to your point it's the wild wild west. Yes and no. Because I can promise you I mean like I have no problem showing people my my peptides where I'm buying it from and proving their FDA standards.

I mean if people understood that Lily, you know, there's a reason why their manufacturing is in Ireland and Japan. Anyways, there's two. It's because they haven't been checked by the FDA in years. And there's a reason why they don't have their manufacturing here in the United States versus an average compounding pharmacy will have the FDA come in three or four times a year, you know, versus there's been whistleblowers with pharmaceutical manufacturers that I mean not having a sterile environment. I mean, it's and that's again like this is no. But you know, and I guess that's where again I'm like for sure go buy your stuff online. You know that that's ultimately your choice, but don't come ask me. And you know, but it's always I usually get those patients back because they're like, "Yeah, it worked really good one time and the next one didn't work at all." I'm like, "Yeah, I mean."

No, just like I said, just I remember when you called me I'm like you have access to anybody. Why are you calling me? You know, I think that was like because I mean I just I and but I'm I'm okay being a small person. Like that doesn't I I guess that's not what feeds my soul. What feeds my soul is when I see that person's picture change in 6 months as far as patient wise. But no, I'm just I'm very grateful for the opportunity. You know, like I said, I always know that this none of this is of me and that there's absolutely a higher power and you know, I'm I'm thankful that I'm a part of it.

Well, you're doing great work and you have a phenomenal energy about you. And that was one thing that when I first met you, I was like, "Wow, you know, you just have this thing about you that you you you're going to deliver and you can there's like there that that pathway is we go back to that pathway of peak performance, right? Going all the way back to where you were running the Texas Tech. Go Red Raiders." Yeah. Yeah. You know, just all the way through. And I think it's something about you that is sort of like I'm not quitting until I step off the planet. I'm going to give it everything I've got. Which is why I was like, "Hey, I need to have Chrissy Fury on the show."

Well, thank you. Thank you for coming. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's it's been an absolute pleasure. Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate it.

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